On 1 may not yet be a talk show that you directly associate with very spicy interviews, heated discussions or annoyances (with the exception of this exception), but yesterday it was a hit: VPRO star Tim den Besten joined in the discussion about Zwarte from the ‘side’ Piet.
Vibrate
At one point, he even showed his hands demonstratively. They were trembling with anger. It started when Mona suggested that villages and cities themselves should know what they are doing with Zwarte Piet. “In the village where I come from (Volendam, red) it is a Zwarte Piet.“Presenter Sander Schimmelpenninck;”I see Tim here on the right pulling away completely, what’s going on?“
“You say nothing”
According to Tim, Mona revolves around the hot paste. “I am sorry that you don’t really say anything in the end“he begins.”Lately there have been so many white people who say it is not so bad and ‘there is that problem’. You are one of the leaders of this country, it is a very important time. Do something!“According to Tim, Mona avoids the discussion because she doesn’t want to lose voters.”And don’t act like that … You go by a bit, you don’t want to lose voters. A real shame. I’m just completely eating up.”
Racismedebat
When Mona suggests that she wants to tackle racism around job applications, for example, Tim reacts again with: “there is so much more going on.” “I am now eating up and I would like to see it from you, because you are a representative of the people and I am shaking completely because I hear you talking.“The tension in the studio is increasing. Mona:”but what do you want to see from me? Say what you want to see from me.“
Voters lose
“I want to feel that you know what is going on without fear of losing voters“, strikes Tim back.”I know that?“Mona says surprised. Well, one thing is clear: these two will never come out.”Yes, but Tim, of course it may be that she really thinks that way“Sander tries. But Tim doesn’t want to know about that.”I can’t imagine that.“
You can see part of the fragment below:
Recently @MonaKeijzer called the racism debate ‘a Randstad discussion’. At # Op1 she responds: ‘I think everyone in their own village and city should decide how they want to deal with it. You cannot decide from The Hague how things should go in the rest of the country. ” pic.twitter.com/HT9NM5m5oe
— Op1 (@op1npo) June 27, 2020
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