“The United States is currently spending hundreds of millions of dollars, maybe even billions of dollars, with the goal of using this war as a testing ground for new technologies, new techniques and new procedures,” Scott Ritter told the popular podcast Redacted. , write Voices.
We share the transcript of Ritter’s conversation with Clayton Morris, and the video was shared on Youtube.
Ritter is a former U.S. Marine intelligence officer. He served in the Soviet Union as an inspector for the implementation of the Treaty on the Elimination of Medium-Range Missiles (INF), served in General Schwarzkopf’s headquarters during the Gulf War, and from 1991 to 1998 was chief inspector of weapons for UN in Iraq.
Morris: The Wall Street Journal packed the entire front page of its website today with a huge, photo-like session, almost like they hired Ann Gettys to take pictures of them. Yes, this is photo journalism.
So these are the people, look at your screen, “Ukraine fears defeat in the east without an influx of military aid” and all the pictures of how they are suffering now, and European leaders are, of course, about to meet in Brussels and have a complete list of the equipment they want so they can ship it right away.
Take a look at the list – this is the advisor, let me check if I say his name correctly, this is Zelenski’s advisor (Mihailo Podolyak). I will put it on the screen, here is what Zelensky’s adviser says: To end the war, we need parity in heavy weapons – 1,000 Howitzers, 300 multiple missile systems, 500 tanks, 2,000 armored vehicles, 1,000 drones.
This is what they hope to receive after the meeting on June 15, just a few days ago. Scott, what is your view on this – they need guns, and that’s the only reason they lose. As if we haven’t sent them enough.
Scott Ritter: There’s something I pointed out from day one. Ukraine started with one of the largest armies in Europe, one of the best equipped armies. They are fighting another very large army, a very well-equipped army. And we come to the brutality of military mathematics – it is about death and destruction. You kill people and destroy equipment.
And the side that can do it more effectively than the other will win. Russia is very effective in killing Ukrainians and destroying Ukrainian equipment. There comes a time when, if everything is in relative parity, you grind everything along the way, but it’s a slow process, but there comes a time when you start grinding everything faster and that changes very quickly. This we see at the moment, the destruction of the Ukrainian army.
– We do not understand anything about military strategy, but we know what the media is talking about military strategies. It seems that around February we were told that Ukraine could cope, that they were fighting, that they would rise up and repel Russia, and that would be an easy task. And now we are told the exact opposite. This material from the Wall Street Journal says that the Ukrainian forces have only one artillery installation of 10 – 20 Russian on the front lines. This math is not going to win, is it? If more is achieved than what you called parity, and now it seems as if the list is ready, or has it always been, and the Western media has always come up with what they want?
– Yes, the Western media has always written what they want. First, from the very beginning there was no parity, starting with a three-to-one advantage in favor of Ukraine. The Russians entered with about 200,000 troops, and Ukraine had 600,000 at its disposal. Ukraine had numerical superiority. Russia had to resort to strategic and operational competencies.
They managed to shape the battlefield very effectively in the first phase of the operation, in the first month of the operation. They blocked a large number of Ukrainian forces, preventing them from strengthening critical sectors. Then they limited the communication lines, destroyed ammunition depots, destroyed fuel depots, destroyed communication lines, obstructed command and control.
All this leads to the destruction of the combat effectiveness of the Ukrainians, while the Russians are crushing on the battlefield, so that by the time they entered phase 2, they had already shaped the battlefield the way they wanted. The Ukrainians were stationed on the battlefield where the Russians wanted, they just got them into the dirty work of killing.
I don’t want to be too direct, but this is a war, it’s not glorious, it’s not heroic. It is a disgusting death and destruction of the worst kind. They showed this photo to the Ukrainian with a steel look – come on, tell the truth, this is a burnt corpse thrown out of the tank, torn, blown to pieces, because this is the way it will look in a day or two. Hundreds of Ukrainians look like this every day.
It’s not Rescue Private Ryan, where they pat each other on the shoulder and go, it’s a body blast, people need to know. It’s not beautiful, it’s ugly, it’s disgusting, it stinks. This is a war, and the Russians are waging it more brutally effectively than the Ukrainians can endure. The inevitability of the Ukrainian defeat was written from day one.
We have seen the superiority of the Russian plan. The West did not understand Russia’s plan, they thought, “Oh my God, they are trying to take Kyiv!” Russia has never tried to take Kyiv. Russia went there with 40,000 troops and captured 60,000 armies. This is called using your brain.
Russia has never tried to take Odessa, drowning 10,000 troops in the Gulf and blocking 40,000 troops on the ground. They forced the reserves, instead of going east to Donbass, the reserves were redirected to Kyiv and Odessa. And in this way Russia shaped the battlefield. To be able to achieve this impressive victory with a third of Ukraine’s army.
And it was very impressive, every military expert, not the idiots who are paid money by Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, they all have three or four stars on their shoulders, but they have stopped being military professionals the moment they are took a check from the media corporations because the job they are paid for is not to provide military advice, their job is to repeat and confirm the conclusions that the media have already made.
We are here to tell you about the great Ukrainian victory. Lieutenant General Mark Hurley, please tell us about the great military victory, the Ukrainians achieved a great military victory. None of this is true. Nothing is true. And when someone like me comes, they say, “Oh, time’s up.”
I wrote 16 posts, tweets explaining what happened at the end of Phase 1. They had 3 million impacts, or whatever the term is. I think this scared Twitter a lot, they were wondering if they should take them down because someone was getting a story that was different from the crowd.
Look at the list for the Ukrainian market – it proves that their butts are kicked, because if you need 1000 artillery units, it means that you have lost 1000 artillery units. If you need 500 tanks, then you have lost 500 tanks. These are the unpleasant pure facts.
And it’s not just tanks and artillery. Every piece of equipment that is there is a human life. For every tank that is lost, that’s three or four lives. There are five to six lives for each artillery installation. If they lost 1,000 artillery units, that’s five to six thousand dead.
If they lost 500 tanks, multiply that by three, that’s 1,500 dead. At least, there are infantry, there is logistics, there are many other people killed there. Ukrainians have been slaughtered, perhaps now admitting that they have lost 200 people a day. I will tell you that now this number is closer to 600, to 800 killed per day. Per day, 600 to 800 people dead.
– You mentioned some of the talking heads on TV and it’s amazing because we’ve worked in this world, I’ve been in the mainstream media for 20 years, Natalie too, and we’re out of this beast’s belly. But I want to hear about this man, I don’t want to throw him under the tires of the bus, but that’s exactly what you said a while ago. So you’re telling us we’re losing, there’s no way, no matter the money and the weapons, to turn this work around. But the military-industrial complex is still beating the drum, let’s hear Dan Hoffman, a former CIA.
“What is your conclusion, do we have to give more weapons?”
Yes, it should, absolutely. We must keep Ukraine in battle. Vladimir Putin is trying to put all possible pressure on Ukraine and the West, he is using food, turning food into weapons, trying to get the West to reduce its support for Ukraine, but we must keep Ukraine in battle, this is the only way to achieve a solution that protects not only Ukraine but also our NATO allies, especially on the border with Russia. “
– This sounds very scary, but I would like to put it another way to answer the question we often see in our chat – what should we, as Americans, do? Just let Putin come in and take over this region for himself? Can you answer that? On the one hand, we just need to intervene and control the fire, and there is another argument – what do we really need to do here?
– Yes. Let me start by saying that Dan Hoffman is not a military expert, Dan Hoffman is not an intelligence analyst, Dan Hoffman is a CIA officer, and when I saw Dan Hoffman, I saw compromised espionage attempts, he and his comrades were kicked out of Moscow because they don’t get up to what they do.
And to hear him talk about military affairs is absurd. So, let’s put Dan Hoffman aside and Dan, if you have a problem with that, argue anytime, anywhere, I know your file, you know mine, it’s an easy job, you’ll lose.
I’m not usually that aggressive, but today the CIA is of no use, especially to those people who were in the Russian department, because they are the ones who created this nonsense for Putin and Russia. They spied, spied, spied, and never learned who they were spying on, so they ate a fight, they were all kicked out because they were caught.
Now to your question, what should we do? I don’t know, what I would advise any American to do is visit a cemetery park, a World War II cemetery park, and kneel before the graves of people who have lost their lives on the European stage.
– I want to look at your article that you published today. In particular, for the use of Russians as cannon fodder. I may have misunderstood the expression, but this is your article from today that the United States is trying to use Ukraine as an experimental laboratory for its drones – a move that Russia is unlikely to forget. And the next stage of this war?
“I mean the Gray Eagle drones, which were developed during the global war on terror.” It was a great weapon used against the Taliban, goatherds, wedding guests, Iraqi civilians, in a very auspicious environment where he could fly around without fear of anything. But the United States has realized that if you try to use this weapon against an opponent of the same level as Russia or China, it will be taken down.
And they are currently spending hundreds of millions of dollars, maybe even billions of dollars, trying to improve Gray Eagle so that it can play a proper role on the modern battlefield. Why else would the United States send four Gray Eagles to Ukraine if they know that the Gray Eagle was created and used and will not survive a second on the modern battlefield in Ukraine? Unless they intend to use this war as a test site to test our new technologies, new techniques, new procedures.
Which means that Ukraine has become a platform for research and development, and that’s great if you only use computers in theory, but it’s a site where Ukrainians and Russians are in a battle of life and death, and in that battle, Ukrainians are being killed. in a ratio of 1 to 20 compared to the Russians, but still Russians are dying. So, you are provoking a war whose sole purpose is to kill Russians, but a war in which killing Russians will not change the outcome. How brutally cynical do you have to be to do this?
– Yes.
– I would urge everyone to read this article, I will check to put a link to what Scott wrote today about drones. Thank you very much for following our channel, as you know we were banned, we were stopped, we were censored, so we started our own website to stay connected with you for free.
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