Nel kibbutz Fabrizio Rondolino he showed up wearing a keffiyeh. He asked if it was a problem, “no one” they told him, and they set him to discard the rotten oranges. “It was the summer of 1978, I was eighteen years old, a boy student at the Alfieri high school in Turin, and the kibbutz seemed to me to be the only experience of real socialism that was worth living”, says the former spokesperson of Massimo D’Alema at Palazzo Chigi.
“It is no longer the Israel we loved,” he said Sunday at In half an hour, Romano Prodi. «Netanyahu he exceeded every limit.” How do you experience the escalation, we ask the lawyer Luciano Belli Pacithe son of Liliana Segrewho is among the founders of Left for Israel: “With discomfort,” he replies.
Socialists were the founders of Israel. Labor ruled the country for a long time. When Achille Occhetto went to Tel Aviv in 1991, he pronounced himself thus on Zionism: «It was the social and national liberation movement of the Jewish people and has its roots in the history and values of the workers’ movement». Today Israel risks isolation, in moral disapproval for what is happening in Gaza, for the powder keg ignited between Lebanon and Iran.
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«Prodi is right», says Rondolino. «Netanyahu is like Trump, Putin, Erdogan. But it is within a democracy, a secular society, where the newspapers contest it, family members take to the streets, while I don’t know that even a Palestinian from California has said anything against the massacre of October 7th.”
However, the relationship with the left is fatally compromised. Could it be otherwise?
There was a time when the kibbutz was the promised land for many left-wing kids. Emanuele Fianoa long-time member of the Democratic Party, spent a year there, with his girlfriend who would later become his wife, in 1983. «I was a militant of the socialist Zionist movement, we ended up in Sassa, one kilometer from the border with Lebanon. I picked apples, then I worked in the carpentry shop, we got up at six. Everything was shared, in exchange they gave you house and food. Even the father of Schlein he lived on a kibbutz in the South. Many dear friends remained there.”
Like Rondolino, who falls in love with Israel after arriving convinced that Arafat is Che GuevaraFiano also cultivates dialogue with the Palestinians. «Today there are few of us left who think we can reconcile the two causes: what I see pains me a lot», confesses Rondolino, former correspondent of theUnit.
The break already occurred with the Six Day War, in 1967. First the PCI, then also the PSI of Craxi they move to pro-Arab positions. The DC itself, Andreotti in the head, it is. The divorce was sanctioned by the advent of Netanyahu, who reduces the Israeli left to nothing: today he has four deputies. «This happened because the left sacrificed itself on the altar of peace», says Belli Paci. After the Oslo agreements, which established the Palestinian Authority, there were dozens of attacks; the void left by the withdrawal in southern Lebanon was occupied by Hezbollah; after Camp David the second Intifada broke out; the exit from Gaza allowed Hamas to take over the strip. For public opinion, every attempt to make peace has brought more terrorism. Netanyahu explains himself this way. But we cannot help but continue to fight for two peoples, two states, the only key to reaching a peaceful solution.” «There is no shooting on Unifil», specifies Fiano, «but it must be said that it is not doing what it is there for: to make Hezbollah retreat».
Left for Israel continues to spread its newsletter, in the belief that we must not stop looking for the reasons for peace. But with bewilderment, with impotence.
Fabrizio Rondolino has retired to the countryside. «At the time they put me in the kitchen, then in the factory, and finally to clean the chickens’ poop. I was the only Gentile who came from Italy. The kibbutz paid for your holidays, your doctor, your college. I saw the only socialism there.” Other times.
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The founders of Left for Israel, how do you envision the future of the left’s engagement with Israel, and what steps can be taken to bridge the gap between supporting Israel and advocating for Palestinian rights?
Welcome to the World Today News interview section. Today, we have two guests to discuss the current state of Israel and the sentiment of the left-wing community towards it. Our first guest is Mr. Fabrizio Rondolino, a former spokesperson for Massimo D’Alema and the Democratic Party, and our second guest is Mr. Luciano Belli Paci, a lawyer and son of Liliana Segre, who is among the founders of Left for Israel.
To begin, we would like to understand better the experiences of our guests in Israel. Mr. Rondolino, you mentioned in the article that you had a transformative experience in a kibbutz in 1978. Can you share more about what drew you to Israel and how your time there shaped your views on the country?
Moving on, Mr. Belli Paci, as someone who has been involved with Left for Israel, how do you feel about the current situation in Israel, and how has your organization been working towards peace and understanding between Israelis and Palestinians?
Transitioning to current events, there has been much debate within the left-wing community about Israel’s actions in the Gaza strip and its relationship with its neighbors. Mr. Prodi has recently spoken out against Prime Minister Netanyahu, stating that he has exceeded every limit. Mr. Rondolino, you too have expressed discomfort with Netanyahu’s leadership. Can you expound on your thoughts about Netanyahu’s leadership and its impact on Israel’s relationship with the international community?
The relationship between Italy and Israel has also been strained in recent times. The article mentions Prime Minister Conte’s decision to suspend defense cooperation with Israel, which was a significant move. As someone who has had a personal connection to Israel through your time in a kibbutz, Mr. Rondolino, how do you view this decision, and do you think it affects the long-standing friendship between the two countries?
we would like to discuss the future of the left’s relationship with Israel. Historically, the left has been supportive of the country, especially during its early years. However, with the escalation of tensions and the continued strife between Israel and its neighbors, there seems to be a growing divide within the left-wing community. As