Last time it sounded exciting when Markus Söder said: “I’m omnipresent.” At the time, that was the answer to Markus Lanz’s question as to whether the CSU chairman would see himself in Bavaria or Berlin in the autumn. That has now become superfluous.
Since Söder CDU boss Armin Laschet gave way on the K question, talk shows initially got a little quieter about the “candidate of the heart” (quote: CSU general secretary Markus Blume). Now the Bavarian Prime Minister is back on the flat screen in Lanz’s studio. Connected from Munich, with Lake Constance in the background – so much for omnipresence.
Söder gets a good half hour solo interview at the beginning. Two topics are in the air this evening: the conflict in the Middle East due to the current situation, the state of the Union due to the south. A real balancing act. Lanz, as agile as usual, goes straight in: “Is the role clear for you, the Israeli state against a terrorist group?” Söder weighs it down – of course everything is “very, very complicated” – but emphasizes Germany’s historical responsibility towards Israel. He quotes the journalist Peter Scholl-Latour, praises a strategy paper by the Greens for the more consistent deportation of Islamist criminals and concludes: “We are all German citizens and parts of German society. We want to make a contribution to peaceful coexistence.” So far, so harmless.
“In Bavaria, or in Germany, where I’m in demand”
The second topic is more moody. Söder and Lanz are moving into more familiar territory: CDU / CSU, federal elections, coalition forecasts. You know it. This follows the choreography, which has been perfected over several broadcasts: the presenter prances around the guest, who sometimes defends more, sometimes less confidently. At times the atmosphere between Markus and Markus seems almost too familiar: “You are, so to speak, the doctor of the soul for all of the career plans in Germany. You do that quite well,” said Söder, praising the questioner.
When Lanz asks the Prime Minister about his relationship with Armin Laschet, he holds a Yoda cup in the camera: “You can see, for example, from my cup here, I’m a big Star Wars fan. I’m trying to bring in the Yoda rhythm So to be completely relaxed and do everything possible to ensure that the good guys win. ” Lanz: “The others tend to believe that you are the dark side of power.”
At some point Söder gossips a little. Perhaps it is also a calculation: “I will then try to make my contribution, in Bavaria or in Germany, where I am asked. And after that, if we should form a government, you have to reckon with me, of course.” He is only alluding to the fact that, as CSU chairman, he also sits on the coalition committee, he says. Still, amazing where this man appears everywhere.