The dialogues that ELAS has in its hands are revealing, in which members of Thira 7 comment on what happened outside the stadium before the match with Aris.
The … intra-family conflicts in the largest association of organized fans of Olympiakos and one of the largest in Greece was admitted in his statement to the authorities by the manager of a well-known trapper who was sentenced to pre-trial detention along with 18 other defendants and is alleged to be one of the leading members of the criminal organization. “known to rival fans and Olympiacos fans by the nickname OMLE”.
“I have reached this position because I have been targeted since I used to go to the links. After 10-12-2023 I was forcibly taken from my home by the police and held for 12 hours. I was physically abused, I reserve the right to provide documents. They wanted to put me in the witness protection program and tell lies, like others are now telling about me. I can prove this with witnesses who beat them to force them to accuse me” the accused manager testified, among other things, and to the question “why did they want to put you in the witness protection program?”, he testified that “I have been targeted by the police and by fans of my team, because maybe they were annoyed that I was taking the banner…”.
• For the alleged as No. 1 in the hierarchy of Thyra 7 A.I. the police in its report typically states: “When the organization’s leadership is threatened by rival Olympiacos fans, it does not hesitate to attack them with particular ferocity…”.
• For K.P. states that “when the leadership of the organization is threatened, with the “overthrow” of its leader, by rival fans of Olympiakos, he does not hesitate to attack them with particular ferocity”.
• For H.B.: “When the leadership of the organization is threatened, with the “overthrow” of its leader, by rival fans of Olympiakos, he does not hesitate to attack them with particular ferocity.”
• For K.N.: “In the last year he was cut off from the Criminal Organization under investigation, but he has returned with the aim of overthrowing the leadership. He is trying to do this together with other Olympiacos fans by using violence.”
In addition to the statements of other arrestees, the telephone conversations that the police have in their hands and in which members of Thira 7 comment on the incidents between Olympiakos fans before their team’s game with Aris are also characteristic. In one of them, X. and G. are talking and they say: X.: Did you learn ours yesterday? G.: Which one? X.: Did our people kill each other?
C.: What do you think;
H.: On the field.
C.: What are you talking about?
H.: Yes, quacks, like that, of the whore.
C.: Who are you?
H.: Oh, the Pagratians with the others.
C.: They were against each other.
H.: Huh?
C.: With the “short” one?
H.: Yes Yes Yes.
C.: And who else?
H.: Eh, it was everyone bro, you know now the adults.
C.: And why so?
H.: Eh, I know, they blew up the field. Furious…
C.: The Pagratians?
H.: Yes…
C.: Yes;
H.: And the others went wrong with them and you know. It’s backgammon, everyone.
C.: And who won?
H.: The others. Not the Pagratians.
C.: Oh, the others?
H.: Yes, hey.
C.: Why so?
X: I don’t know bro. Fuck me, they’ve uploaded videos to Ultra…
C.: What are you talking about?
X.: Yes, between us.
C.: I’m drinking, man, I’m losing the best, motherfucker. I can’t see them.
H.: No, better. I wasn’t either. In your beginnings. That’s what you missed now.
C.: No, I mean watch them on video. Not up close.
H.: Tell Mitso to show you when he comes with the cell phone. A lot of wood I tell you bro. Thesis down. The one from Misfits, remember that long video?
C.: Yes;
H.: They let him down.
C.: Who was he with?
H.: With the Pagratians.
C.: Why;
H.: Why have such things changed?
C.: What are you saying now, man?
H.: The crazy guy with the different shoes, remember him?
C.: Yes;
H.: He also plays backgammon.
C.: Thesis?
H.: Yup.
C.: And he with the Pagratians?
H.: Yes.
C.: What the hell you moron? Did they all leave them?
H.: Everybody, everybody, everybody.
C: And who were the others?
H.: Who;
C.: The “short” one?
H.: Now let’s not talk in general. Was.
C.: The Other.
H.: Gate 7.
C.: Was it from Korydallos?
H.: All Gate 7.
C.: What are you saying now, man?
H.: In such a setting, we have not gone with the bastards.
C.: Yeah, screw them.
H.: I saw… that is, they told me and I didn’t believe it, friend.
C.: And they were uploading videos, were they filming? Rezilly, fuck them.
H.: Yes. Hey, what a mess I’m telling you. You will see a battle… If you see it, you will see a battle not bullshit.
C.: That is, under dissolution. H.: Fuck them.
G.: We broke up.
H.: Well, everything goes after Rentis.
C.: Fuck them.
H.: The beginning of evil…
“We told the cops, what are you messing with?”
Another conversation indicative of the hooligans’ relations with police forces is the one between B. who called K. on the phone and they also refer to the incidents between groups of “red and white” fans:
B.: What happened, what happened?
K.: They became a brothel yesterday. We fell for each other.
B.: Come on.
K.: Yes, and the cops also got in the way, the rioters, because they saw the blood under one of them and picked up Manos.
B.: What happened;
K.: They gathered Manos.
B.: For real.
K.: Yes.
B.: I’m talking nonsense.
K.: Yes, we went to the cops and told them why did you get involved, we have a personal difference to settle we told them, why are you involved? They are outside the stadium, he says, and they are hooligans. Hey between us I say we are why did anyone bother you? B.: Come on, bitch.
K.: But the other bitches went and hid behind the cops and the cops thought it was their fault, you know?
B.: Wait, who were they with? K.: With the Pagratiotes, P. and them.
B.: What had happened in the summer? K.: Well done, there were about twenty people who had gone and were waiting for us at the stadium and we also went and made tulumi for them. B.: That is, Kr. And they; K.: Yes, yes, Kr. he hadn’t come. P. and Korydalliotes who will also be fucked now, because the Korydalliotes did not know that they would come down.
B.: We need to talk in detail. K.: Yes, yes.
B.: Closely.
K.: Yes, fuck them, I’m talking about a lot of wood.
B.: You bastards, I’m fucking their house.
K.: Yes, yes, some knives fell, Takis from the Misfits. B.: Come on.
K.: Do you know how it happened in the beginning? At first K. went to the beer bar with his wife and child. And they went and threw it at him and beat him. B.: Shut up.
K.: Yes, and they told Niki to “give us the keys to the car”, they wanted to take his car as well, in front of Niki and the little one.
B.: Fuck their house inside, that is, and in the next match there will be another mess?
K.: Yes Yes…
B.: And where has this all come from?
K.: The tall man’s shop was burned down again.
B.: Whose tall?
K.: From Faliro.
B.: Oh I get it.
K.: It’s the second or third time. B.: Oh, I understand.
K.: Mmm, Takis went and weighed in with his brother K. This K. and it’s a good name says Misfits.
B.: Oh sure, yeah, okay.
K.: Yes, and in the anabumbula above what we learned, Takis pulled a knife from Joseph.
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