Wednesday evening Celien Hermans presented ‘Play Café’. “Normally, Matthias Vandenbulcke would have stood here next to me, but he is ill,” Van Ouytsel opened the program. “And so I jump in until he is cured”, laughs the other Celien. As if it were never any different, they presented the showbiz program together. Did she enjoy it? “I thought it was great,” he said. She will therefore be present again on Thursday.