Gianluigi Paragoneformer director of Padania and then senator elected in 2018 with the M5S, he ended it at the end of last year, politically speaking. Enough party politics with his (former) creature Italexit.
And now?
«I’m writing a book that will be released at the end of the month, title: Damn Europe».
Now we’re getting there, but first: why this choice? He had his own party, they gave him 2-3 percent…
«With a government that had voted no to the ESM and is playing its own game in Europe in opposition to the Ursula majority, there was no space to move forward, with such a tough electoral campaign with the threshold at 4 percent. I made a realistic choice, and I think we can continue to carry forward my vision of things but as a journalist, as I did at Cage».
What happened with Italexit? Now they run with Cateno De Luca.
«There is a misunderstanding, the Italexit with De Luca is not mine, it is a movement created by some exiles».
That is, they don’t have the symbol?
«The people who have the original symbol, to whom I entrusted it, did not make any agreement with him. I think De Luca will have a problem in this sense, even if I understand that he needs the Italexit brand for his broth.”
But what do you do in the next European elections, vote? And who?
«I will like to give my contribution with the book, then we’ll see, I certainly can’t vote for those who trust von der Leyen again. The next commission will have a shadow, that is Mario Draghi. The EU is a lopsided building and we will look for strong leadership like his.”
So think about the League.
«The problem is that the League must make it clear what it wants to do along this path: the 34 percent vote was strongly anti-European and was not ashamed to say so. Today? Are your themes those of Vannacci, the Bridge or does it still have this anti-Europeanist essence? Sooner or later Europe will have to face this Gordian knot of its future.”
That is to say?
«The more time passes, the more Europe’s bluff comes out. Putin was armed by Europe: it chased the market, liberalizations, and we ended up dependent on him and on his gas. He never hid his ambitions to create Great Russia, and he used energy as his armed wing, it was there for all to see. Europe does not have the people in his plan, it was born a victim of his neoliberal intoxication. Now we’re talking about common defense: can you make a hole in the public accounts for that, after decades of austerity?”.
So maybe not even the League. She misses a home.
“I’m a conservative, I find myself more in the centre-right, free to say what I don’t like.”
Don’t you miss active politics?
«Book presentations are still opportunities to talk. Among many things, I took on the anti-vax, the denialist, but on health issues I was only asking for transparency, and having denied it is at the origin of fake news.”
His return to TV as a host, like a new one Cage for example, is it possible?
«For now it’s difficult, the television space to do new things is limited. I often appear as a guest on some programmes, evidently the things I have to say are of interest to someone.”
What do you think about the 5 Stars?
«Conte is smart but he has something he can claim, two measures that have moved something: citizen’s income and superbonus, two tools that he put on the table. While others play with bonuses and tax exemptions, Conte has invented two different stimuli, forcing everyone to reflect. Income, i.e. how to share in the event of personal failures. The superbonus, thinking of construction as a driving force for growth. It doesn’t mean that these are two positive instruments in themselves, there were flaws, but they were expansive measures.”
Are you nostalgic for the M5S that elected you?
«No, because after a few months I understood that it had become a systemic movement. But if it is still standing it means that there is something solid.”
So he could vote them out again.
“No, I couldn’t because Conte insists on the wide field, but I support the crazy experiment of the yellow-green government.”
Will this government last?
«Yes but not like Berlusconi’s longest-serving government».
So will it fall before the end of the legislature?
«I don’t think that FI can allow Meloni to surpass that record, maybe they will organize for a Meloni again».
What do you think about Vannacci?
«I agree with him on one thing: you gave him many copies. But I don’t think his agenda should be spent at the European Championships.”
Salvini wants it at all costs.
«Salvini needs votes, he tries everything. I also think that there are people who are ungenerous towards him, anyone who thinks today of talking about the northern question again must understand that that topic has changed its skin and physiognomy, and then if they can talk today it is because Salvini himself has revitalized the League.”
Does the word sovereignism still have a meaning?
«Yes, absolutely, but the sovereignists themselves continue to underestimate it, I don’t understand how they can believe in a Europe that takes power away from national states».
She has maintained her anti-European coherence, now in words very few have remained against the EU.
«But it is a failing model, the only possible form is a convergence between countries like the EEC or the Brics, insisting is a huge mistake. The truth is that Europe does not exist, because governments have been replaced with markets and people with profit.”
First you were talking about Putin: how will it end in Ukraine?
«We can only come up with politics, and politics is not always right, it is a balance of power relations. There will not be a noble pacification but a mediation that will have to recognize the bad invader’s receipt of his power. Putin knows very well that Europe is nothing, he doesn’t scare him. And the more time passes, the worse the conditions for Ukraine will become.”
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– 2024-04-05 11:05:23
