In her interview withStep» the president of Slovenia, Natasha Pierce Mushar. Mrs Moussar, who as president is also supreme commander of her country’s armed forces, says she supports every effort to strengthen European defence. Regarding the bilateral relations between Greece and Slovenia, the 55-year-old politician believes that there are many opportunities to further strengthen the cooperation between the two countries in trade, digitalization, and technological innovations.
Mrs Moussar, who will participate in the 9th Delphi Economic Forum (April 10-13), also refers to the good relationship and cooperation that has developed between her and the President of the Republic Katerina Sakellaropouloupointing out that it acts as a catalyst for the development of trade ties between the two countries.
You will visit Greece as you participate in the Delphi Economic Forum. Slovenia and Greece are members of the MED9 group. In which areas do you think there are possibilities for cooperation between the two countries?
“Slovenia and Greece have been allies and partners in the EU and NATO for 20 years, are committed to the rule of law and border an area that is not yet part of the EU, but should be soon. They also both have female presidents, who have cultivated a good and close partnership. Greece currently ranks only 27th among Slovenia’s largest trading partners, so that alone speaks volumes for the opportunities there are to explore.
As you may know, I have a keen interest in rapidly developing technological innovations. In this area alone I see a lot of potential, both for scientific and financial cooperation. For example, Slovenia can be competitive in digitization in both the private and public sectors. I believe that just the mutual visit of the two presidents in less than a year acts as a catalyst for the development of more dynamic trade between the two countries.”
The EU supports Ukraine, but decisions are not taken lightly and in terms of military aid, there are many needs that the EU has not been able to meet. How do you see this situation from your side?
“Ukraine is a victim of aggression by Russia, which is a permanent member of the Security Council and according to the UN Charter is supposed to be a voice of peace and reason. If the global system fails, a unified force is the only response to Russian aggression. I am concerned that the EU is not sending clear messages to the world that it wants and will be that power. Whether politically or economically or militarily, we, the EU, do not seem to be able to speak with one voice. This is sweet music to the ears of only one country, Russia.”
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the prospect of Donald Trump’s return to the White House are causing concern in Europe, particularly in terms of its defense capability. How do you see the discussion and proposals already made to strengthen the EU’s defense capability?
“When I addressed the Slovenian diplomats for the first time since I assumed the position of president, I raised the question of whether Europe can defend itself without the support of the United States. This was over a year ago. The debate is ongoing and I am encouraged by that. Better late than too late. I’m not sure we have the answer yet, but I certainly support any effort to strengthen the EU’s defences. The stronger it is, the safer we’ll all be.”
Your country is located near the Western Balkans. Enlargement is high on the EU’s agenda, but we see obstacles in the process. The difference between Athens and Tirana in the matter of the elected mayor of Heimarra, Freddy Beleris, showed once again how difficult this process can become. What is your opinion?
“European integration has always been a complex process. Besides, Greece and Slovenia also had a share in issues related to membership candidacies. And what is the main lesson from these enlargement and nomination stories? That compromises are required and ultimately benefit both sides. This is a historical fact. Many say the challenges surrounding the Western Balkans’ EU membership are unprecedented. Disagree. T
a Western Balkans are often seen as part of the EU’s problem. In fact, the Western Balkans are part of the solution to strengthening the EU. One cannot envision a united Europe without the Western Balkans being firmly integrated into the EU. Otherwise , the EU will be and will remain vulnerable to external competitors. If you’re a boxer, you don’t want your lower body to be unprotected. Many points there can bring you to your knees. This is how I see the importance of the Western Balkans for the EU”.
In the European elections, the parties close to populism or the Far Right are expected to significantly strengthen their forces. How do you see this development and what is the situation in Slovenia?
“As someone who has dedicated her entire life to the protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms, I am not satisfied with such developments. I also refer back to history. Populism has never been good news for Europe. It cost the lives of millions of people. We in Slovenia have created a solid defense and resistance against populism and authoritarianism.
I see that people in Slovenia understand why it is important to maintain this resilience. My country has been through many hardships in its history and we have enjoyed our independence for just over three decades. It is a country where young people love freedom and democracy in a very special and determined way.”
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