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Mollo in the talks: the ‘parapan’, Madrid and Gallardo a “little inflated”

He gets excited. Just naming is Boca and the guy is already talking non-stop. Because that’s how it feels, that’s how football lives Daniel Mollo. And in these quarantined talks with Olé, he goes on to talk about his beginnings as a rapporteur, how the ‘parapan’ was born, why he would have liked to have Fillol and Passarella, who should not have even traveled to Madrid, who without Riquelme did not win the tournament, the situation of Villa and that Maradona should have been better received.

Today in full on radio, he distributes his work between Saturday mornings on Miter radio (the Stamina and very early Saturday) and Sundays with his Selection Mouth in Cooperative. And like everyone, Mollo is concerned about the quarantine: “You cannot remove yourself from what is happening to the country and the world. This possibility that we journalists have of being able to go out to do our jobs, allows us to go out, always with all the precautions going out a little. I can’t wait to be free 24 hours a day

-How do you do to talk about football in Boca de Selección with this panorama?

-Knowing that ours is football, what we do is get into the Boca world without neglecting reality. We work in the world of the National Team and in the world of Boca in particular trying to find different notes and productions. Fortunately we are making many more relaxed notes. The other day we did Mac Allister and he was saying how good to make a relaxed note. When there is a lot of activity in the maelstrom, it is two or three minutes running and now you can go through the protagonists in some places sometimes you don’t have time to do it.

-And how did you come to the story and so identified with the Boca world?

-I always wanted to tell. The voice helps you a little. AND voice is essential on the radio. I like the voices like Caldiero’s, Víctor Hugo’s own, Muñoz’s at the time. The voice so loud was a door opening. I think I should be the only rapporteur who did all the homework. I made costumes for Boca, central studios, I commented until I got to tell. I always wanted to do it. But I am very vertical: when I got to Radio Miter, there was Pancho Caldiero. I asked Roberto Leto, who was the head of sports, who wanted to report. And Roberto considered that I was only for costumes. I understood the explanation that he gave me but I wanted to relate. And you had to tell him, I’m leaving Miter, an all powerful radio. I still work on Saturdays but not on soccer broadcasts. Until one day Caldiero, when Radio Miter, already consecrated Fantino, leaves, he calls me asking how he wasn’t in the world Boca And he incorporated me to comment knowing Pancho that what I liked was to relate. He was giving me the opportunity. Unfortunately Caldiero dies and I am left to tell.

-How are the crutches born? The Parapan …

-If I start listening to Muñoz, Víctor Hugo, Closs I end up being like a copy and then people will go to the original. I swear it for my children that I arrive at the field without anything prepared. I start thinking about the broadcast the same Sunday. And what comes out, comes out. When a hose starts to be repeated by people: the Parapan thing. The day Caldiero died arose and I have to go out and tell. There was a free kick for Boca and Mouche was about to kick it. And I say, go Mouche for Pancho. This goal is for Pancho because it was Caldiero’s nickname AND “for Pancho” is very long. It was the same day that Caldiero was being watched.

And he was deforming for Pancho … –

-Of course, I started with dale Mouche, for Pancho, for Pan and the goal came. And there is the parapan. And as several told me and I repeated it. All my life I was thinking about a hose and everyone always ended up in Victor Hugo’s “ta ta ta” or Muñoz’s “there comes the goal”. And that of the parapan arose thus spontaneously.

-If you told me you copied one

– the only thing that I copied and that I thank him all my life is the genius of Francella with the “They are going to make me sick”. He said it in Married with children and as I consumed and consume Francella a lot… One day when Boca was winning or making stupid goals and I said they are going to make me sick, they are going to make me sick and you see that people repeat it …

-When were you most angry in a story?

-I think the story that hurt the most, The one that gave me the most anger was 3 -0 against Estudiantes with Bianchi. I was convinced that the technician was being made a bed. Well I could never confirm it but that night I was totally convinced that the players were making a bed for Bianchi. I couldn’t believe that at 15, 20 I lost like this with Students. And there was a goal, that the play could be discussed, by nature. But Iban grabbed the ball to serve. And I said, no we can’t. That day was the worst of all.

-And when did you enjoy more?

-I choose two. One Boca-Corinthians in San Pablo. They sent us to tell the audience. Two commentators and I had traveled. Here we do not shout, we speak slowly, careful we said to ourselves. And when Riquelme grabbed the ball and stuck it in the corner, I started shouting Riquelme’s goal until I was dysphonic and all the Brazilians looked at me… It was tremendous satisfaction. In the cradle of soccer, as is Brazil, showing that Riquelme was the best of all and he was making this great goal. We were in the middle of the crowd and they realize you don’t speak Portuguese. They left me alone, they did nothing to me, but just in case we left at around three in the morning. And the one that reminds me the most is the last one against Gymnastics. A mythical night. Where Maradona, Riquelme, Tevez and Boca were champion.

-Did you think it could really happen?

-I was convinced. The day that River did not beat Defense and Justice I was in Mar del Plata and I said Boca was champion. When you miss those opportunities, I was convinced that Boca won it. And well, afterwards the discussion came through Gallardo. Because Gallardo, in the two heads-up matches he had with Boca … When the coach was Guillermo, and Boca had six, seven points, and River went head to head, Boca ended up being the champion. In this also ends up losing. Gallardo won in the heads-up, but in these where the sprint is much longer, Boca wins.

-Then I don’t even ask you about the Bianchi-Gallardo comparison.

-The comparison does not exist. As Santella said recently, it does not exist. We are talking about a multi-world champion technician with another who did not come out as world champion. Gallardo is a good coach but inflated a little bit. Because I wonder: if at six months -and the president himself said it, this was the best River in history, what was left for the Machine, that River world champion. Because the one who takes him out as world champion is the best. Gallardo has several subjects left to give. He is on his way to being a great coach who can end up in history. But it’s half way.

-How does the River fan treat you?

-Very good. I want to take this opportunity to tell that I am on the street and they treat me very, very well. At some point I personally thanked Rodolfo D’Onofrio, because at some point he called me to ask if I needed any kind of facility. Let’s see, in Madrid, when the game ended, you went down the street and they told you things, they loaded you up. It is logical. I always say; we have to load, but with the clear limit. If you go to the River court and nobody realized that you arrived, it means that yours doesn’t give much … It is barking, a sign that we are riding. In this journalism, to praise you as many do, but to criticize yourself as others do, is that you are alive, you exist. The people of River always treated me well. The only time I had problems with a fan with the gym people. It was simple, I could solve it with one that had become very heavy. But this is soccer, poor man who believes that this is life or death, life or death is what we live now, not soccer.

-You spoke at mystical night because Maradona, Riquelme and Tevez were together.

-Look, I am unable to talk about Maradona because I’m going to get excited … For me Maradona is everything, (cries) Everything, everything, everything. He is the greatest athlete who gave the history of football. I met Diego in Naples when Radio Miter had sent me to do some coverage. With Diego I shared world championships, many stories … My son is called Diego Valentino. Valentino for my grandfather and Diego … He is the athlete who gave me the most joy. And that I am lucky to see sport from 30 years ago. The things Diego did wrong, as he says, he is paying or he is going to pay or someone is going to judge. I’m not going to judge it myself.

-How much weight did Riquelme have in the title?

-Without Roman this team was not a champion. Without Román I do not know if this leadership won the elections. If Román went with Ameal, Ameal won as he won. If he went with Beraldi, Beraldi won. If he went with the oficialismo, the oficialismo won. Román is the athlete, the most influential human being in Boca’s life in the last 15 years.

-Finally they did not greet each other when Diego went to La Bombonera with gymnastics.

-I was very hurt by what happened in the match with Gimnasia and Maradona. In time they will regret it because the tribute they deserved was another. Both Román and the leaders must have made another one receiving. Maradona is, without a doubt, the greatest athlete in the history of Argentina and the world. The statements, what one says in the electoral campaign, what I am with one or the other, end at the moment when you are representing the institution. When you represent the club, you must give it the recognition it deserves. That Maradona has a spicy tongue, we all know it. They should have honored him as they do on all the courts. Hopefully when Román makes his farewell match, Maradona may be present. I’m rotten from the Vilas-Clerc, Batistuta-Crespo, Fangio … We must succeed in contradicting the physics that if there are two positive poles, they repel each other.

-And where did Tevez stay?

-I don’t have Carlos Tevez on the podium of my idols. I admit that in this of journalism, many times it betrays us that one begins to be a friend of the protagonism, or begins to have a link. I never had a journalistic link with Tevez. But I think he is very influential in Boca, he raised a lot in the last month and Boca was champion. But there are still many Boca fans who did not forgive him the year he went to China.

-You also follow the Selection. How do you see yourself in this new stage?

-One tries to always be optimistic. We are going to report Qualifiers, World Cups and we want it to go well for us to install Argentine soccer. This Selection does not reveal me. It is a technical body that generates a question mark for me. It almost bounced overnight. All of us are convinced that there are many better technicians in the international and domestic order. But now you have to support Scaloni. We’re convinced? No. Always depending 100% on Messi. If Messi could enter as he enters Barcelona, ​​it would be key.

-And what do you see as the greatest difficulty in getting it?

– it does not have in the Argentine Selection, the companions that it has in Barcelona. It does not have the endorsement. I had to share with you to share an experience of Cirque du Soleil de Messi and we saw that he is the owner of Barcelona. Messi is to Barcelona, ​​what Diego was to Naples. So it feels like home, in that comfort, that mime they have there with him that he never had in Argentina.

-You’re not just a journalist. Engineer, politician …

-I’m an engineer in civil construction. At 5 years old, when they ask you what you will be when you grow up, I said engineer and journalist. I received my degree in Technology and did a journalism course at the Institute of Information Sciences. And then he decided that he had to give back to my San Martín, where I lived all my life, some of everything he gave me. It is not demagoguery: I could live closer to the radio or the field and I never moved from San Martín. Mauricio Macri told me to give him a hand and because of my friendship with him I said yes. I was a councilor and became vice president of the Council. When I did not share some things with the Governor of the Province and the then Minister of development, I began to have my independent movement.

-Did you play football well?

– I am chubby of all the life. Most say they have a problem, that thyroid … No, I am eating. He always played, he went to goal. I was a good goalkeeper and at the moment a good number 5. One day, they came to play in Chacarita. My old woman, Tana, found out. He kicked me on the fret and sent me to study.

-Andrada style? Or Córdoba?

– It was not played with the feet. I was big, more stubborn. More Abbondanzieri, below the arch.

-Which River player would you have liked to see wearing the Boca jersey to tell about playing in Boca?

-I do not share when Boca says nothing about River or River says nothing about Boca. It is a big lie of a house. Those of us who are soccer fans, we admire. Obviously, River had and has great players like Independiente, Racing, San Lorenzo and like all of Argentina. I am going to give you two River players that I would have liked to have in Boca: one is Ubaldo Matildo Fillol. The best archer I have ever seen. And more now as I was disappointed in Gatti, who said he was a Boca fan and now says he was from River. And the other player made for Boca was Passarella. What happens is that I did not miss Passarella so much because Mouzo was there. So I said: Mouzo is better than Passarella, as he was trying to deceive me. On top of that, Passarella later rewarded us to the Boca fans being the best leader I saw in my life …

-What should Boca do in a situation like Villa’s?

-It is very difficult for Boca to face it. I was discussing it in a note with Mac Allister. Society already judges you and now you have to have all the elements to demonstrate if what they are accusing you is true or is a lie. When he had such an accusation, I do not know if similar, the actor Pablo Rago, he in five minutes was able to demonstrate that this was a lie and he was able to leave. This opens up a great question mark for Boca leaders. Is it okay for the leaders to continue buying Colombian players? The last big trouble, taking out the Centurion case, Boca had with Colombian players. When you want to have an armed and harmonious institution, you have to see this. Remember that when the last time he had police pages, the case of Barrios and Cardona … It seems to me, taking advantage of Riquelme’s leadership, capacity and superlative intelligence, that when Boca goes out to buy something abroad, it is not only obnubilated and to be blinded by the soccer skills of the protagonists, but by the whole.

-You named Centurion …

-Centurion is a crack, but it is a case among so many athletes who were not prepared for when they were newspaper covers and then lost. He is a person who has all the conditions to succeed in Boca, Racing, the Argentine National Team. It was talked about until he went to the World Cup in Russia. But his discipline problems betray him. Some cases enhanced, others minimized, whatever. Some will tell you, exaggerate because it is in Boca or vice versa. But it is one of the other cases that were not prepared.

-What will be the rematch for Boca of what happened in Madrid?

-What happened in Madrid was a tremendous mistake by Boca. He should not have agreed to go play in Madrid. Because Boca had injured players … I take you off the court and I don’t play it anymore. After Conmebol does what it wants. It remains to be seen what commitments he had to have accepted to go play it.

-But do you say that he should not have traveled directly?

-I do not have any doubt. There were forceful elements, backed by medical certificates, injured Boca players. That was enough. After the Conmebol expels you and you make a parallel league. It seems to me that there were mistakes that the Board of Directors paid for inexperience. He paid because there were many office leaders, and he was missing some Bombonera, tribune, and plank leaders. It had already happened with the suspended classic, the famous Baker … And with the greatest respect for Rodolfo D’Onofrio: in my house the president of the other institution does not even fart on the field. How are you going to enter my house and you are going to harangue as he harangued and the other one who is now imprisoned in the United States!

-We return to the Madrid issue and how to close the football wound.

-It seems to me that the Boca fan has completely overcome it. I find the comparison absurd: what is more difficult to lose a final with your enemy or to have descended? You cannot compare one thing with the other. A final is arranged now, for example, with this championship that Boca won, since the Boca fan almost did not remember … I listen to Alonso when he says that the stain is never erased again. D’Onofrio, Ramón, Almeyda… everyboby says the same. Even Menotti said that descending is the largest role there is.

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