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I read your response from then and apart from what that engineer is shouting, there is also a memo from Nadella from that time in which he says something like “..makes sense to have the developers test and fix bugs instead of a separate team or testers, Nadella said.”. It is also my experience that the quality of releases from Microsoft has deteriorated since that time. So perhaps Mr. Berg is a bit annoyed about his departure from MS, but it is in line with what Nadella writes.

Not quite agree.

I have that sentence looked up, because 1 sentence without context is of course not a correct representation at all. In this context, there is talk of moving to a more Agile way of working. This is in contrast to the Waterfall model. Testers are no longer separate teams, but the testing process is included in the development process.

Testing therefore started to happen more in the development process, more responsiveness. There is no mention anywhere that the developer will test his own piece. This can also take the form of reviewing and testing other people’s work. Although I am of course more in favor of ‘QA’ as a separate function (focus on QA). Furthermore, I did not find any information about another commonly used method in the business: outsourcing. I expect it to be used as well, although I couldn’t find anything about it. We also have Microsoft’s Insider program in which software can be tested by the public. I think that in itself is a very relevant method, because you have more “user scenarios” there.

I also want to say this: software has become more complex, so it is logical that problems arise more often than in the past. Also, nowadays there are so many channels to report such problems (more news articles, social media and other channels) so that it is picked up more often and thus more often in the media. But that is obviously not a correct measure of the amount of problems and the “quality value” you give to them. Just a feeling and nothing more. Because you simply cannot compare that with the past, when there were not so many channels to report and share. Now everything is also magnified because everyone has the urge to give their opinion and share their vision. This way, these things come to you more often, often unsolicited, through these channels.

To give just one example: windows vista is from 2007, when there was still a separate team of testers and he was on the dev team.

[Reactie gewijzigd door MrAndy9797 op 19 oktober 2021 13:03]

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