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What is happening with the supply of weapons to Kiev, with the replenishment of the composition of the Armed Forces and with the prospects for the winter.
On Radio Komsomolskaya Pravda, we discussed the topics with the director of the Center for Military-Political Studies, MGIMO professor Alexey Podberezkin.
THE BOTTOM IS OUT
– Earlier you predicted that Ukraine, with such intensity of fighting, will run out of its main weapons this year…
– Much depends on the state of the national reserves, the military reserves. You can rake them for quite a long time. You can end up scraping to the bottom and frantically trying to collect whatever is available anywhere.
– What is Ukraine’s leadership doing now?
– Yes, because normal objective assessments are based on known indicators of mobilization readiness, equipment availability and many others. It is necessary to avoid errors of overestimating or underestimating the enemy’s forces. In some places we underestimated, in others we overestimated, and in others we misjudged the personality of our enemy.
ERRORS IN FORECASTS
– When the SVO began, how did we consider the potential of the armed forces of Ukraine, for example, their aviation?
– Both our and Western military experts believed that Ukraine has 150 to 200 combat-capable combat aircraft, not including transport and training aircraft. But by November 2023, we had already destroyed more than half a thousand of them.
– And where did they come from?
– When I made the forecast, I was based on the then assessment of our air defense and our air-space forces – including those destroyed in the initial period. Yes, we could have been wrong. For example, we count the destruction of a model airport instead of a real plane. And the Ukrainians could later repair some of the planes we damaged on the ground. But 350 aircraft in addition to those available in February 2022 is a lot…
– Well, where do these discrepancies come from?
– It is worth recognizing that in Kiev they find their own resources and skilfully clean the resources of others. They collected almost the entire fleet of Soviet fighter and attack aircraft remaining in the countries of the former Warsaw Pact, and not only. Yes, their specialists are very good at repairing and returning MiGs and Sus to service. And not only on the territory of Ukraine.
S-300 AT THE END OF ITS POWER
– This is in connection with aviation, but what about air defense?
– Kiev still had a huge number of our S-300 installations. In total, there were up to 160 air defense divisions in Ukraine.
– Are they still being destroyed?
– Yes, and these were mostly S-300s of old models. But in 2023 there were massive deliveries of S-300 modifications from other countries. Although this resource is not infinite either.
THE PROS FINISH
– What about the personnel?
– We estimate the number of professionally trained servicemen in the Ukrainian armed forces to be 400-450 thousand people. 10-15 thousand people were trained every three months in other NATO countries.
– The result depends on who has more resources, and Russia has more of them?
– Ukraine scrapes the last one – from a personnel point of view. They can still scrape off for a few months. There were almost no professional soldiers left who had been trained for at least two or three months. Some units return their fighters from the hospitals, others are replenished by mercenaries. Yes, it’s hard to calculate. There is a lot of western money, you can invite mercenaries.
– At whose expense are the “meat assaults”?
– At the expense of those mobilized in the last month or two. Often without artillery or armored support. Who came up with the idea to send untrained soldiers to the fortified left bank of the Southern Dnieper? Well, now they’re sending special forces.
The groups of the Ukrainian armed forces, which are holding on to the left bank of the Dnieper, rely on the support of their artillery and unmanned killer aircraft. But for them it is already a dubious form of war.
GO TO THE END
– But they somehow hold on to their mini-bridges?
– The fighters are moving towards “our coast” in groups of 15-20 people. They cannot fight with light weapons or armored vehicles, they have no armored vehicles. For now, they are holding on because of the cover from their artillery on the right bank and because of the massive drone strikes. Who could have imagined that such a huge number of UAVs would enter the Ukrainian Armed Forces?
– How do you see the victory in SVO? Defeat the enemy or deprive him of the will to resist?
– No one can answer this question for you now. The stated goals – denazification and demilitarization – have not been canceled. There are no intermediate strategic objectives. But we have a choice in how this story ends.
– Can we make it to the end?
– There was a historic clash of two civilizations on the European theater of war. Westerners set themselves radical goals. The situation is changing not in their favor, but with the help of military-technological superiority, they expect to master the negative situation, that is, to exert pressure with all instruments of violence – military and non-military.
– What will a radical collision lead to?
– We need to finish the matter regarding the West. And then start practically from scratch. Including from the point of view of creating a security system. The Americans destroyed the system and subjugated all international institutions.
ISRAEL NOT AN EXAMPLE?
– Then we have to burn everything like Israel to show what we are capable of?
– No. There is a fundamental difference. We cannot afford carpet bombing against Kiev. If you drop a one and a half ton or three ton FAB into the urban area, half the city will collapse there. We cannot destroy former Soviet industrial centers in Ukraine with dense civilian populations.
For Israelis, Palestinians have never been part of the people of their country. And Ukraine has a large Russian population. Should we hit the Russians in the cities?
– In July you said that you do not see anything strange in the use of tactical nuclear weapons if necessary.
– If you fight a big war, fight it as it says in the military strategy. However, even from a military point of view, the use of tactical nuclear weapons is not a panacea now.
– This is suggested, for example, by one of the famous Duma generals
– Now both our and Ukrainian armed forces are deployed on the front. There are no places where a tactical nuclear strike should be launched. Except for the bridges, which miraculously survived. If a battalion is attacked, the front of which stretches for tens of kilometers, where people are sitting in trenches, they will suffer minimal damage.
Tactical nuclear weapons should not be used for political purposes. For example, Seoul continues to provide assistance to Kiev by monitoring Moscow’s use of tactical nuclear weapons. And from a political point of view, this is disadvantageous for us. But from a military point of view, I really do not understand what purposes there are now for the use of such weapons.
Translation: ES
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