Drama by Ammar ATF Assaf and Akbar SoNNeiko Butaev forward PGL Wallachia 2024 season 2 has become the most discussed topic in the Dota 2 community The number of news related to the conflict between two sportsmen will appear in the hundreds soon. For those who missed this stream but want to understand what happened, we have put together a short summary.
What happen?
- The incident between the players became known on October 6. SoNNeikO went to ATF in the lobby of the hotel where the tournament is taking place to discuss the insults he allowed himself in one of the match games.
- A frame has appeared online where the players are standing side by side, with SoNNeikO holding his hand on ATF’s shoulder.
- The organizers gave the SoNNeikO team a penalty (minus 110 seconds of bonus time in the game against the Falcons).
- Team Falcons criticized SoNNeikO’s behavior and requested that the player be disqualified.
- SoNNeikO was not disqualified, and the Falcons continued to compete in the tournament. Later, the AVULUS group also issued a statement.
What is the position of the parties in the conflict?
- ATF setting:
A few months ago, he called Butaev “brainless” in matchmaking. After the match ended, SoNNeikO began threatening the ATF in private messages, although Assaf himself took it as a joke. According to the ATF, Butaev approached him in the hotel lobby and threatened him with physical harm and offered to go out and talk alone. However, SoNNeikO’s teammates pulled him away.
He continued to threaten me despite the AVULUS manager and players trying to make him stop. Anyway, I think he did because he can’t beat me at the game.
- SoNNeiko Location:
Butaev remained silent for a long time, and then on October 7 write a long post in which I explained my vision. According to SoNNeikO, he did not threaten the ATF in personal messages, but simply said that the Falcons spy should be taught manners (SoNNeikO attached the corresponding screenshots). Butaev noted that he did not intend to provoke a conflict with the ATF, but, on the contrary, he wanted to discuss the incident in gaming to resolve the situation. SoNNeikO was surprised that Assaf did not apologize, and later accused him of threats, which, according to Butaev, were not.
After that, I was able to quickly talk to the manager of Falcons – a pleasant and appropriate professional who, apparently, wanted to quickly resolve the conflict and bring it to an end. After the game, I wanted to talk to him personally and explain the situation, but the organization asked me not to contact anyone from the Falcons. I followed this advice because I was sure that we could discuss everything in detail after the game. But no.
After this, the Falcons team told the organizers that I was saying that I was threatening physical harm to Ammar, although this was not true. I’m sure PGL has camera footage showing that there were no threats – no verbal or provocative gestures. The only physical contact is my hand on his shoulder and that’s it.
Answers from professional players
Reactions from professional players were mixed. One of the positions that some esports players adhere to is that insults in gaming cannot be a reason for struggle in real life. Quinn spoke with a similar thesis Quinn Callahan.
If anything, I think the current penalty is not enough and AVALUS should be disqualified from the tournament. Physical threats are completely unacceptable and should be punished as severely as possible.
SoNNeikO’s behavior was also publicly criticized by ATF teammate Oliver Sit Very good, coach Falcons team Curtis Aui_2000 Ling and former professional player Ilya Illidan Pivtsaev. The latter criticized Butaev for his behavior style, calling it “prison-like”.
Another part of the professional community has taken a less clear position, and the most important thing is that, although physical contact is not the best way to resolve conflicts, the ATF must learn to be responsible for its words, and insults The Internet is no different from insults in real life.
If we speak from a moral point of view, insult is also violence, only in a psychological and emotional form.
At the same time, part of the professional community decided not to get involved in the conflict between ATF and SoNNeikO, but instead they launched a funny movement, in which they challenged each other to fighting games.
Community response
Most of the English speaking community condemned SoNNeikO’s behavior, calling it immature and adding that such a response to an insult in gaming three months ago is ridiculous. However, some users also criticized the ATF for its continued offensive statements against other sportsmen. According to gamers, Assaf is old enough to understand that such behavior is unacceptable.
In the Russian community, the scales were not on the side of the ATF. Assaf has been reminded of his harsh comments against many other professional players, including the threat from bzm. Most users agreed that ATF has crossed all limits in terms of toxicity and deserves at least a fine from its own agency or some form of control. bonds from TO or Valve.
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SoNNeikO and ATF never came to a peaceful settlement, and at the time of the publication of the material, the conflict was simply frozen. However, both teams have already reached the playoffs of PGL Wallachia 2024 Season 2, so it is possible that the teams will fight in a head-to-head match – it will be interesting to see what happens in the case this.
2024-10-08 12:35:00
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