Claus Mathiesen is often asked what it takes for NATO to be drawn into the war between Russia and Ukraine. He tells Dagbladet that he can imagine three scenarios that could make it necessary for NATO to enter.
Mathiesen is an associate professor at the Danish Defense Academy and has taught Russian language, culture and military affairs for over 40 years. He has also been the Defense Attaché in Ukraine for a number of years.
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Scenarios
– The first scenario is if the war drags on and there are more and more reports of abuses against the civilian population from the Russian invasion force.
– The second scenario is whether Russia decides to carry out an attack with the intention of punishing one of the countries that either supplies weapons to Ukraine or plays the role of intermediary for arms deliveries to Ukraine – weapons that increasingly go from being defensive to more powerful.
– The third scenario is whether the war turns in Russia’s favor with the prospect of total Russian control in Ukraine, including a regime change and the establishment of a pro – Russian government.
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– Serious, but unlikely
However, Mathiesen does not have much faith that NATO will be drawn into the war in Ukraine.
– Despite the fact that the scenarios are serious, I consider that they are either unlikely or that it is inconceivable that they will force NATO into the war, he says to Dagbladet and continues:
– If they should occur, it will naturally put a lot of pressure on the political decision-makers, but the overall line that has been set by the United States and formulated by President Joe Biden is not expected to be broken.
Mathiesen concludes:
– NATO will not risk a major war with Russia with all the consequences it may have for the populations of the countries involved.
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Political assessment
Whether NATO should get involved militarily in Ukraine is first and foremost a political assessment where one must weigh gains against risk, Sverre Diesen believes. He is a researcher at the Norwegian Defense Research Establishment (FFI), general and Norway’s former Chief of Defense.
– It is obvious that it will be useful for the Ukrainians with more help from NATO, which must be weighed against the risk that more NATO countries will be drawn into the war, said Diesen to Dagbladet last week.
Ståle Ulriksen has previously stated to Dagbladet that he believes that there is no automaticity in that a military conflict between NATO and Russia in Ukraine will lead to neither World War III nor nuclear war. He has also said that NATO could clearly have done more to assist Ukraine, such as supplying more weapons.
Ulriksen is a researcher at FHS Naval War College. He has previously been Assistant Director at NUPI, a member of the Defense Policy Committee and a member of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs’ Security Policy Committee.
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Additional scenarios
In addition to Mathiesen’s three scenarios, other things have previously been mentioned that could contribute to the escalation between NATO and Russia. NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg, for example, has warned Russia that the use of biological or chemical weapons will completely change the war, represent an extremely great danger and have far-reaching consequences.
While Ulriksen has said that if Western leaders accuse Russia of genocide in Ukraine, it will have consequences.
– Accusing Russia and Vladimir Putin of committing genocide is more binding than accusing them of committing war crimes. Under the Genocide Convention, one is obliged to prevent and punish genocide, said Ulriksen to Dagbladet and continued:
– It will be a dramatic development if Western leaders decide to accuse Russia of committing genocide in Ukraine.
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