“I gave my first real kiss when I was 23, to a girl.”
He must have had a crush on his elementary school desks.
Anus. I was an old child, the boys made fun of me because I didn’t like football and marbles, I preferred to play hopscotch.”
He also hated the Merry Surgeon.
“When they gave it to me for Christmas I cried desperately. Since I was a child I was terrified of diseases. Every evening, in bed, I clenched my fists tightly. “I can do it, at least I won’t die tonight.” To console me, Aunt Ester bought me a Bontempi keyboard.”
His love for Maria Callas exploded then.
“In middle school my classmates listened to Ti amo by Umberto Tozzi, I collected Fabbri’s albums on the greats of music.”
Her book «Too proud, too fragile. Callas’ novel sold 1 million 800 thousand copies. And she bought a house there.
“Insane success, translated into 15 languages.”
He has just signed a re-edition for Mondadori, which he will present at La Scala on 12 December. Do you foresee other real estate deals?
“I don’t think so. There are 100 more pages. I wanted to pay homage to her on the centenary of her birth, Divina is a character who is good for the heart.”
At the gymnasium he had his revenge.
“I didn’t get medals in sports, I didn’t smoke cigarettes, I didn’t have a scooter. But I cheated on all of my homework in class. I finished in an hour. My classmates kicked me under the chair to make me suggest. And I gave the wrong answers. On the way out they spit in the balloons and then deflated them in my face.”
The first rudiments of love.
“I was a very unlucky nerd. At 13 I saw Gilda with Rita Hayworth. And I felt my first sexual impulse. “Oh God, what’s going on? I die”. I didn’t really understand how it worked, but I fantasized about the love between Aeneas and Dido for months. And with the films of Carmen Villani».
He became a high school teacher.
«I graduated at the age of 22 and a half from the Catholic University. After three months I was already teaching at the Leone XIII in Milan, a snobbish institute of the Jesuit fathers”.
One of his students’ big 10s.
«He told me about Nino Bi “for” me, alias Nino Bixio».
And let’s go back to that late kiss.
“I took a cap for the aunt of a student, older than me, she was 31 years old. We were terrified that they would find out about the affair. We were supposed to get married in Sant’Ambrogio. One day, in front of a level crossing, I kissed her. And I discovered physical attraction, the real one.”
However, the wedding was cancelled.
“He sold air conditioners, he cheated on me with an Egyptian representative. We sent the gifts back, including a Rinascente kit.”
There are still bad ones.
“I didn’t want to know about love anymore. Inside me I felt that my true interests were elsewhere, but the external influences were too strong. I repressed. When there was a transport strike, I walked to Bruzzano. There were prostitutes on the street. Mum recommended: “Don’t stop from sluts”. Out of fear, I did that section in a hurry.”
Another fateful encounter.
«When I had already decided to close that door forever, on a bus to Moena I met Laura, a wonderful girl, Roman, headed to the same hotel as me. It was love. And I spent seven wonderful years with her. I was madly in love. Smart, she gave me a lot of trouble. Every weekend I came to Rome by train, with my cat’s cage.”
He didn’t look for distractions elsewhere.
“Never had temptations. If I saw a handsome man I just looked at him. I was affectionate, I did the chores, the shopping, I prepared dinner.”
But in the end you broke up.
“Our relationship went into crisis, I had dropped out of school to become a journalist. Laura didn’t like that world. We moved away. Until one day we looked into her eyes and said to ourselves with great honesty that it was better to close her there so as not to hurt ourselves.”
There was another betrayal involved.
“His, with the tennis coach. I suffered, I was consumed body and soul. And perhaps also out of spite – cuckolded twice out of two – I did the quail leap, amidst a thousand upsets. I was thirty-odd years old, I had never been with a man, despite living with certain thoughts. I said to myself: “If I was a failure as a boyfriend it’s because I didn’t want to listen to that voice inside me.” But I didn’t know how to support her, I wasn’t practical.”
How did he resolve the dilemma?
“I responded to an advert on Second Hand by Robert, model. Appointment at the airport. Beautiful, but ugly. Jeans, tank top, cigarette butt, suitcase with stickers. “Of course Paris is always Paris”. At the hotel she threw herself on the sofa to watch the games. “Should we make two strings?”. She collapsed my lust. I sent it to the Eiffel Tower. I left the money on the bedside table and left.”
He changed strategy.
“I discovered Cuba, you could go there without fail. I had a Lauda Airways card, I left 2 or 3 times a month. My first man was Ulysses, he lasted a year. He wanted to come to Italy, so damn I took him there. He was just sex.”
How did you meet Paolo, your partner of over 20 years?
«On a Tiscali chat, meetings section. My nickname was Perlage, his Traveler68. He contacted me. “The only perlage I love is that of Blanc de Blancs”. It intrigued me. It was 2002, I worked with Chiambretti. We discovered that we both lived in Milan. He told me: “Now I’m on the boat”. And I cheekily said: “Is it yours?”. You know, I had certain aspirations. “And what car do you have?”. “An Aston Martin”. “Oh.” I thought he was making fun of me. “I’ll be back this evening, I’ll see you later if you like,” he proposed. I couldn’t, I was a guest on the Maurizio Costanzo Show. “If you like, watch me on TV”.
And looked at her?
“Unfortunately, yes. I was wearing a pink jacket, I said a series of stupid things. And he disappeared. He also blocked me on my cell phone. A week later he showed up again. “Sorry, I was rude, but you shocked me a bit, too exuberant. Yet I would like to meet you.” We saw each other and have never left each other since.”
Except last year, for a few months.
“I was in a bad moment but I didn’t have the courage to talk to him about it. Basically I left it with an interview with the Corriere. He got very angry. But then she forgave me and we are together again, happily.”
Will you get married sooner or later?
«Paolo had asked me before we broke up, I was against it: “I don’t understand why we homosexuals have to take the worst of heteros”. Now I’m more optimistic. If he proposed it to me I would seriously consider it.”
Did he cheat or vice versa?
“When it happened to one of the two, we had the intellectual honesty to admit it, now it has secondary importance. I did it out of physiological need, not with my heart or head. Of course, if you do it, you have to be willing to suffer it.”
Friendship with Silvio Berlusconi.
“When my father died, he telephoned me: “From today you will have another father in me. He was there for me through good and bad times. “What matters is that when you turn off the light you are calm”. He tried to drag me into politics but the affairs of the Palace are not for me. We talked less about women. He wanted me at dinners. “But invite some AC Milan players”».
On “Big Brother” he finds himself contested between Cesara Buonamici and Beatrice Luzzi.
“I confess, Beatrice has a certain effect on me.”
Don’t you think back?
“No, enough, there is no going back. But I hook up more with women than with men and I say this with regret.”
Fedez dedicated a song to her.
“An extraordinary joke. He thought I was angry. He asked me: “But would you make the video dressed as a superhero?”. “I wear the tight onesie, but only if I can pad under there.” He doesn’t know how much I caught.”
As director of «Chi» (now editorial only), how many finished marriages do you have on your conscience?
“A few, the majority were already without return. Certainly Pavarotti’s, after I published the photos with Nicoletta Mantovani. I warned him. “And what will your wife Adua say?”. “Her problems” ».
The Giambruno affair.
“Giorgia Meloni knew well who Andrea was. She had to choose between herself and what she represents. If you hadn’t been at Palazzo Chigi, perhaps you would have acted differently.”
Giambruno brought it to Rete4.
“He was my editor in Kalispera. Identical to how it is today. A bauscia, let’s say here, a ganassa, a Gascon. In four days he left home, he had to start from scratch. Of course he did some stupid things, but he realizes it.”
Will they get back together?
“Not now, then who knows.”
Between Totti and Blasi, who are you with?
«I love Ilary with all my heart, but Francesco is also a very good person. Made for each other. I would never have imagined this end. Reconciliation is impossible here.”
Is Belen remarrying?
“She is local, she could do it. She lives passion without protection. And she often lost out.”
2023-11-26 06:33:06
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