The CEO of the CEO, Antonio Garamendiand the leader of the UGT unionPepe Alvarez, speak in ‘Más de uno’ about the agreement reached for a salary increase 10% until 2025. Both congratulate each other on the pact despite having antagonistic positions.
Álvarez assures that “we have a system that is unprecedented in the world of agreements“something with which Garamendi agrees, who recalls that during the last four years they have signed more than 17 agreements. “Thinking differently is compatible with trying to reach agreements”, highlights the leader of the Employers.
The Government is left out of the firm
Garamendi explains that the ANC agreement is bipartite, between the companies and the workers, that is, the Government of Pedro Sanchez implicated for what they justify that no member of the Executive will be in the firm. “It is to value what we have donewe are not vetoing anyone, but it is something internal to us,” he declares. And the UGT leader points out that his absence will be “for obvious reasons, We are going to do it, those of us who signed and there will be no one else. we come to a agreement very close in time to the elections policies, that was not the intention.
Pepe Álvarez maintains that both the unions and the Employers came to the conclusion that “It’s good for the country and the workers” to give this sign of the salary increase that brings “stability and confidence”. It is a “contribution to the country”.
Likewise, the UGT leader maintains that “from the union perspective this is an agreement for the sectors that have less organizational capacitythat they have had fewer opportunities to defend their collective agreements and that we don’t want to leave behind“.
We have not risen at any time from the table
And Garamendi specifies that “Logically you modulate the postures and adapt them”, something that both parties, employers and unions, have done to reach this agreement. “We wanted to remove it from the political debate,” he says, although he acknowledges that “it has finally been on the table.” He also denies that the CEOE has ever gotten up from the negotiating table.
In addition, the leader of the Employers affirms that “any government decision is very fast”, however, if the “decision is shareda (between the CEOE and unions), It goes a lot further.” “If the governments go and introduce their rules, we will agree with some and not with others,” he says.
For his part, Pepe Álvarez confirms that thissane has more relevance than the purely salarybecause other issues have also been dealt with, such as the teleworking, contracts, etc. Likewise, they will also need to negotiate with the Autonomous Communities for other aspects such as the absenteeism or the conditions of the Mutualsince the powers of Health are transferred.
Likewise, the leader of the UGT corroborates that from the point of view of negotiating collective agreements, yes guarantees social peace although there are still people who are having a very bad time. “This is a complex processit is not an agreement that is applied immediately, but it has to go to the negotiating tables for collective agreements”, spits.
Guarantees for young people under 35 years of age
They also pronounce on the latest measure announced by Pedro Sánchez de endorse young people under 35 with ICOs so that they can buy a house.
“It seems to me that there is a debate that is like a storm in a glass of water”, considers Alvarez. He alleges that “Home ownership is a right for workers and workers who can access it”. He explains that seems reasonable to help people who can pay the mortgage, but cannot put down the 20% down payment.
On the other hand, Garamendi confirms that from the employer’s association “we do not share the government’s housing law at all. It seems to us a total interference with the right to property”. He comments that “interference in rentals is going to destroy the market“. “I don’t want interventionismthat they leave us alone”, he says and adds: “Every day I wake up with new news about how they are going to regulate you”.
Although he does believe that “Much more official protection floors are needed” so that young people can access housing.
However, the UGT leader alleges that “It is a very important debate” and adds that the creation of “a public rental system” is necessary. Opinion that the leader of the CEOE shares, but declares that “it cannot be that it is private property, a person who has saved and that the State come and say what you have to do“.
Antonio Garamendi and Pepe Álvarez talk about the housing law
Discontinuous fixed contracts
When asked why the unions expanded the sectors in which permanent discontinuous contracts can be made, the trade unionist acknowledges that “Spain is a country where there is a lot of temporary workreason why he maintains that if you want fixed contracts, they have to be discontinuous”. In fact, he defends that it is one of the reasons why unemployment has fallen.
Listen to the complete interview with Pepe Álvarez and Antonio Garamendi
2023-05-09 08:09:11
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